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Post by Vader0309 on Jan 18, 2016 3:23:38 GMT
Actually looking back at the series outline for this year "Originality" has already been taken away "Each car is to be scored based on the following... Difficulty, Execution, Overall Appearance, Base Scheme, and Sponsor Brushes." Well we may as well start making replicas everyone. You know as well as I do that, that is not what he means. Originality I think is still important, but after 5 years it is hard to judge originality, because so much has been done. |
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Post by thermite_917 on Jan 19, 2016 22:53:59 GMT
Time to discuss Race 2!
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Post by thermite_917 on Jan 20, 2016 2:55:36 GMT
I guess I'll start!  This one looks like an improved version of your Race 1 scheme, so nice job there. I would just work on making your red outlines more consistent. It would also be cool to see you bring something new to the table next week!  You're becoming quite the texture enthusiast this season! It looks very good on this scheme. On the other hand, I would say the white number doesn't really work in my opinion. It doesn't really stand out. Maybe the light gray or the red would work better. It's also a little difficult to read the text on the side of the car since you have two very contrasting colors behind it. But other than that, this is a pretty strong scheme from you. Nice to see something other than the usual Quik Trip  16emo16 This is one of your simpler schemes, but it really pops! The drill is exactly the same aside from a different color, but hey, if it ain't broke lol. My only suggestion would be to maybe add a little more contrast to the grays or make it look more metallic. That would really make this car stand out. Oh, and you still have the PBC '14 logo on the A post btw   I really like the interesting color scheme on this one. I think the only thing that hurt you was it does look a little rushed like you said. Some of the outlines in the rooster are inconsistent, for example. So execution was basically my tiebreaker between you and Energy. I would also skew the passenger side number the opposite way. If you take a look at Terry Labonte's old Kellogg's scheme, for example, if the paint scheme is to fit the number, the number should go with the flow of the scheme on both sides.  I really wish I could have placed this scheme higher than I did. You have the right colors in all the right spots. It looks great at first glance, but when you look deeper, it just looks a little unfinished. I think there is some more refining to be done on the base scheme, the sponsors to the left and right of the rear wheel look too small, and there should probably be an outline around NAPA so it doesn't blend into the base. On the bright side, I think you have the right idea. Now it's just about execution. Also, your number looks better!  This is a badass looking scheme  The only thing that kind of hurt you was difficulty. "Dirt Destroyer", which is the theme of the car, appears to just be in-game text. I would also keep an eye on the rear corners of your car. It doesn't line up with the back of the car very well on the passenger side. |
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Post by Vader0309 on Jan 22, 2016 5:48:59 GMT
Like thermite said, your car looks to be an improvement from race 1, and while the camo works for the game, I would try to see how I could work on that just a little bit more. 16emo16 really liked the car, and while it may look simple, some of my favorite schemes are simple schemes. I really liked this car. For some reason it made me feel like this was a Terry Labonte car, but still was an original. I don't knoe if it is just angles, but the NAPA logo seems squished to me. I would try to work on that logo a little more. Other than that, I thought this was one of your better schemes. I liked the scheme, it looked like a car you would make, but it didn't pop out to me like some of your other cars have.  to be honest, it took me a little bit to figure out part of your scheme was supposed to be blinds. SO I thought that was the weakest part of the car. Once I figured that out, I understood the car.
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Post by Energy on Jan 22, 2016 19:36:02 GMT
Nice job improving your car from Race 1. I'd still work a bit on the camo, as it's a little chunky and could use some subtler colors, but I did see some really sharp improvements elsewhere. Keep working away at it, and you've got a solid Race 4 entry. You've already won the award for "Best Textures" haha. I've really enjoyed both your race 1 and 2 cars because of that. Like Thermite said, the white number choice may not have been the best, but aside from that I don't have much else to say about your scheme. Good job choosing a different sponsor this week, too. Nothing against QuikTrip, but I feel like we've seen them a ton. 16emo16 10/10 would enter again I know I've told you this before, but I love the Terry Labonte vibe I get from this car. It does look a little rushed in areas, but the idea is solid and has a lot of potential. I think that if you thicken some of the outlines and fine-tune the rooster, you've got a car that could compete in Race 4. Like 714, you've got the right idea here, but some refining could really help. There's some inconsistent outlines and some of your NAPA logos look a little forced. But nitpicking aside, you've got some really great color choices and a solid base scheme. It just needs some fine-tuning, that's all. Sharp looking car, man. The only thing that brought you down on my scorecard was difficulty. The in-game text looks good, but it almost would have been better to keep it off entirely if you didn't have time to do custom text for it. But aside from that, I do like your entry a lot. I'm with Vader in that it took a minute for me to figure out what the design on the side was, but after I deciphered that, things made more sense. One thing that really benefits you on my scorecard each week is your execution--I love how every brush and every little sponsor decal is positioned realistically. So keep that up.
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Post by thermite_917 on Jan 28, 2016 0:27:02 GMT
Time to discuss Race 3!
I'll post my feedback a little later.
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Post by not azspud00 on Jan 28, 2016 1:05:50 GMT
00- Good clean car, nothing too fancy but a couple nice touches. On a personal level though, the bright, almost neon blue didn't click with me.
6- Great idea with Froot Loops. BUT, where's the color? Sure, I get it. You might not want to overload a car with Toucan Sam and a bunch of colors, but it could have been just some Froot Loops and maybe a milk splash for color, if nothing else. Really disappointed me that there were really only two prominent colors, but I will tip my hat to you on the brushes.
16- I like it, it's just a little repetitive to see another Ryobi tool is all I guess.
17- Well, that's a cool car. Horrible pun intended.
25- I like the try at the bubbles(?) on the scheme, but it's basically a pour of Dr. Pepper down the side and a bottle on the hood with more Dr. Pepper on the roof. All on a white base.
28- I really like this car, and the texturing over the green. But, there's alot of blank white on your car, along with the 25.
34- I've already told you I love the car, and the single thing I'd touch on it is those pesky black outlines on the Old Spice "S".
68- I'm going to assume the silver textured areas are supposed to be ice? Maybe inspired by a cold snowstorm? No clue, but whatever it is I kind of like it.
71- Honestly I think me commenting on this car is a crime, but honestly I don't want to know how long it took...
First time doing this in a while. Feel free to beat my...interesting? car to the ground for feedback.
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Post by WILBUS_714 on Jan 28, 2016 3:50:05 GMT
There really isn't much color to the packaging or any other material from Kelloggs for Froot Loops. The box is red with a white stripe. The color comes from the tree and Toucan Sam which I recreated both.
I really don't think the car needs a ton of color to busy it up since it is faithful to the product. I also don't think adding white splashes of milk would have added to the scheme. The issue with adding Froot Loops to the car is it would take a lot of time and detail for a bunch of little rings to look right.
Thanks for the feedback,I just hope you are scoring with what is presented and not so much what you would have liked to have seen
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Post by Vader0309 on Jan 28, 2016 4:45:27 GMT
- I thought this looked like a rushed rehash of a Brad K car. While it is not your best work, I think you have come a long way.  - I normally like simple looking cars, but this week was a tough week for it. Don't get me wrong, it is a good car, and scored well on my scorecard, but I thought there were better cars this week. I would have probably tried using product placement. - I thought this car seemed rushed compared to your other cars. Sponsor placement with the fanta and the Napa logo seemed to close together.  - Man, I had kwikstops and Dillons when I was in Kansas, so I liked seeing the Turkey Hill logo (they use the same one for their gas stations), Using the Kroger partnership with Turkey Hill was really smart for the car. Overall it was a was good solid entry  - Way to make an entrance into the Menards Series, I think this by far is the best car I have seen you do. I loved the texture, and the logo was pretty spot on. - Where the Base Scheme lacked, you made up for in decals. Toucan Sam was quite impressive. Solid entry - Great car. It made me want to look it up and buy the water bottle (I am getting quite the collection at my house), so the car does its job. - While I felt your first two cars were decent cars for you, this was one I was waiting to see. This is a solid entry, and looks to be more to your standards. 16emo16 - Great car, It really goes well together. I like that it was not another drill, and I know making those brushes have to be difficult. Great job!
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Post by not azspud00 on Jan 28, 2016 5:23:48 GMT
- I thought this car seemed rushed compared to your other cars. Sponsor placement with the fanta and the Napa logo seemed to close together. Yeah, it was rushed a good bit. Started on Saturday, didn't have all the time in the world. |
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Post by imjustarandomdude on Jan 28, 2016 7:10:19 GMT
Welcome back! Car looked good, but really simple. Maybe some small touches like some type of razor blade based design or even a razor itself could really make the car stand out. On the plus side, I'm a sucker for the shiny, metallic gray designs and two shades of blue on cars. As always great job on the car. Logo's exceded expectations and were spot on. Not even one small little detail was off. But the base is what killed you, it looks nice, don't get me wrong, but it's extremely lackluster. AZ and I were talking about the car and both of us discussed the idea of how adding froot loops to the car would put it over the top. And probably send you straight to the top of the leaderboards as well. 16emo16 Car is cleaner than Mother Teresa's police record. Brush of the product is over the top and spot on. The only thing I have to say negatively about the car is to stop being so good so the rest of us don't get absolutely slaughtered. Great car. Never heard of this company in my life and I don't care one bit. Car is beautiful, great job of making the most out of a minimal colour pallette. Brush is perfect. But the gray inbetween the A and B posts seems awkward and off. I get that it's based off of the bottle, but it seems a tad awkward to me. Car needs work. I get the concept of the car and what you were trying to portray, but you couldn't get it to come out just right. I had a car in the works that tried putting the product on the car that I planned on running this weekend, but I couldn't get it to come out just right. Keep on messing around with that car to try to figure out how to pull it off. your car has so much camo you can nickname it John Cena because well, we can't see it. Bad jokes aside, it looks clean cut. The bottle is difficult to see and the lone black border on the number against the white is another bug for me. Logos are on point and the camo looks superior to what I could pull off. boy was this car a refreshing sight. Get it? Anyone? Love this use of multiple shades of red against the grays. Logo is fantastic, base of the car is clean and looks fantastic. Still want to see Terry Crews on a car one of these days though. That would be the greatest car ever, no questions asked. base fits the sponsor extremely well. As somebody else mentioned (can't remember who) secondary logo placements seem rushed and too close together. As far as the base goes, as aforementioned the base fits the sponsor like a glove (not OJ's kind). Only part of negativity I have to say is the black that is in the A post is unnecessary. wow greatest car ever, guy who designed this is a genius. No bias was found in this statement. I hate coffee but this car neutralizes it out. Your textures are so detailed, intricate and perfect. Takes alot of time and dedication. The logos and bottles are spot on and I have no words. The base and actual design of the car are the issues. I'm sure you've been told this but it is very close to the Kurt Busch Haas #41 and Ty Dillon's former ARCA car. In response to feedback: Vader: Turkey Hill is a local company and I appreciate the compliment. Means a ton Az: I don't know what the texture was. I got triangles and used shades of gray and spammed them everywhere. An extremely complex process, I know. |
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Post by thermite_917 on Jan 29, 2016 5:11:53 GMT
I appreciate the effort and it's a good concept (albeit heavily inspired by a past Miller Lite car as someone else said), but it isn't executed very well. Don't take it personally. It's very hard to make photorealistic decals. My suggestion on how to improve on them is to look up drawing/painting techniques online or even take some art classes if that's realistic. The main reason I'm good at painting on here is because I'm applying what I've learned in past art classes. Don't get discouraged. It won't happen overnight. We've seen how much you've improved already, so just take it one car at a time and you'll get there eventually The textures you made for this car are simply amazing. Sure, the base design isn't the most original, but this is probably the cleanest, most professional scheme I've ever seen from you! Great job! Another car with a great texture. I wish the white areas would have had a little more. It looks a little plain, especially since you separated it so much with that thick black outline. Also kind of odd how you suddenly stopped the texture at the middle of the C post instead of curving it or something. I would work on making the bottle look more realistic as well. Overall though, you've been improving quite a bit. Now it's just about nailing the execution. Everyone seems to be liking this car, and I do too! The different shades of red combined with the gray and white works really well. Old Spice was a really good choice for you this season. I know they can have good inspiration in their products. The only thing that bugs me is whatever is going on in the Old Spice "S"  I really like your color choices on this one. I think they fit the sponsor really well. My only couple things are your driver's side Gillette logo seems to be a little crooked. It kind of breaks the flow a little. The other thing I'd maybe try to make the "shiny" part of the car a little more realistic. If you look at something shiny in real life, it's usually not that uniform/evenly spread out. But honestly you were pretty close, especially in the contrast. 16emo16 That's exactly the kind of effect in the gray I was looking for last week! Great job. And great job on creating your new featured product as well. The execution on this scheme is just about perfect yet again. Like randomdude said, the base scheme fits the sponsor very well, and it's probably your cleanest scheme of the season! I'd maybe work on the consistency of the letters in the long Motion Industries logo, but I'm glad you used custom text! The only thing that really bugs me about this car is the sponsor placement. 3 Fanta logos, 2 DeWalt logos, 2 Mello Yello logos, and 4 NAPA logos (although I'll let NAPA slide because they own Mi). I mean really?? Haha. Nice job overall though. Your logos are near perfect! I was so glad to see you pick Kellogg's because I knew I'd get to see extremely accurate characters. On the other hand, once again, your base scheme is really holding this car back. I know their packaging doesn't have a lot on it or whatever, but that means it's your job as a painter to make it better than that! Saying, "The issue with adding Froot Loops to the car is it would take a lot of time and detail for a bunch of little rings to look right," isn't going to cut it with how competitive this series is now. I know you have it in you! Dang, I was looking forward to the ice cream and scenery you were talking about before! Not sure this random texture thing really works, although it looks decent. The rest of the base design also looks good, but again, I'm not sure it fits the sponsor. On the bright side, it's a generally clean scheme and shows that even on your "off" weeks, you can still enter something that looks nice. I also want to address two things that I've seen some people do...1) Update your A-post decal if you haven't already! Don't think we can't see it 2) I was taught that the field of blue on the American flag should always face the front of the car no matter what side it's on. You can't just mirror it. You have to physically go to the other side of the car, place it again, and flip it. Now, is it a rule that you have to do this? I'm not sure. But I just thought that's how it was supposed to be.
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Post by not azspud00 on Jan 29, 2016 6:21:42 GMT
Like randomdude said, the base scheme fits the sponsor very well, and it's probably your cleanest scheme of the season! I'd maybe work on the consistency of the letters in the long Motion Industries logo, but I'm glad you used custom text! The only thing that really bugs me about this car is the sponsor placement. 3 Fanta logos, 2 DeWalt logos, 2 Mello Yello logos, and 4 NAPA logos (although I'll let NAPA slide because they own Mi). I mean really?? Haha. Nice job overall though. Hey now, anything to make the sponsors happy. See? You've already mentioned them more than you would have if I hadn't fleeped up and done that.. |
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Post by nightowl on Jan 29, 2016 11:31:23 GMT
I also want to address two things that I've seen some people do...1) Update your A-post decal if you haven't already! Don't think we can't see it 2) I was taught that the field of blue on the American flag should always face the front of the car no matter what side it's on. You can't just mirror it. You have to physically go to the other side of the car, place it again, and flip it. Now, is it a rule that you have to do this? I'm not sure. But I just thought that's how it was supposed to be.
As a Servicemen and current First Responder, this has always been a PBC pet peeve of mine. The US Flag code doesn't have specific verbage regulating a flag decal however Navy (and I'm sure the rest of the branches follow something similar) regulations are that the Union (field of blue) will always face towards the front of a moving object. That's why decals and patches appear "backwards" on the right side of any vehicle, vessel, or person for that matter, up to and including Air Force One. I pointed this out in a few feedback threads last year and a few people fixed it, but others apparently didn't. As I've stated previously I automatically deduct .25 points if I notice an improperly displayed flag, to me that is no different than one of your sponsor brushes being backwards.
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Post by not azspud00 on Jan 29, 2016 14:58:50 GMT
I also want to address two things that I've seen some people do...1) Update your A-post decal if you haven't already! Don't think we can't see it 2) I was taught that the field of blue on the American flag should always face the front of the car no matter what side it's on. You can't just mirror it. You have to physically go to the other side of the car, place it again, and flip it. Now, is it a rule that you have to do this? I'm not sure. But I just thought that's how it was supposed to be.
As a Servicemen and current First Responder, this has always been a PBC pet peeve of mine. The US Flag code doesn't have specific verbage regulating a flag decal however Navy (and I'm sure the rest of the branches follow something similar) regulations are that the Union (field of blue) will always face towards the front of a moving object. That's why decals and patches appear "backwards" on the right side of any vehicle, vessel, or person for that matter, up to and including Air Force One. I pointed this out in a few feedback threads last year and a few people fixed it, but others apparently didn't. As I've stated previously I automatically deduct .25 points if I notice an improperly displayed flag, to me that is no different than one of your sponsor brushes being backwards.
That's a good thing to know and I'll fix it when I remember to, but it shouldn't go into part of the score at all. Even if it's .25 by whichever way you score. |
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This one looks like an improved version of your Race 1 scheme, so nice job there. I would just work on making your red outlines more consistent. It would also be cool to see you bring something new to the table next week!
You're becoming quite the texture enthusiast this season! It looks very good on this scheme. On the other hand, I would say the white number doesn't really work in my opinion. It doesn't really stand out. Maybe the light gray or the red would work better. It's also a little difficult to read the text on the side of the car since you have two very contrasting colors behind it. But other than that, this is a pretty strong scheme from you. Nice to see something other than the usual Quik Trip 
I really like the interesting color scheme on this one. I think the only thing that hurt you was it does look a little rushed like you said. Some of the outlines in the rooster are inconsistent, for example. So execution was basically my tiebreaker between you and Energy. I would also skew the passenger side number the opposite way. If you take a look at Terry Labonte's old Kellogg's scheme, for example, if the paint scheme is to fit the number, the number should go with the flow of the scheme on both sides.
I really wish I could have placed this scheme higher than I did. You have the right colors in all the right spots. It looks great at first glance, but when you look deeper, it just looks a little unfinished. I think there is some more refining to be done on the base scheme, the sponsors to the left and right of the rear wheel look too small, and there should probably be an outline around NAPA so it doesn't blend into the base. On the bright side, I think you have the right idea. Now it's just about execution. Also, your number looks better!
This is a badass looking scheme 
The only thing that kind of hurt you was difficulty. "Dirt Destroyer", which is the theme of the car, appears to just be in-game text. I would also keep an eye on the rear corners of your car. It doesn't line up with the back of the car very well on the passenger side.
to be honest, it took me a little bit to figure out part of your scheme was supposed to be blinds. SO I thought that was the weakest part of the car. Once I figured that out, I understood the car. 
- I normally like simple looking cars, but this week was a tough week for it. Don't get me wrong, it is a good car, and scored well on my scorecard, but I thought there were better cars this week. I would have probably tried using product placement.
- Man, I had kwikstops and Dillons when I was in Kansas, so I liked seeing the Turkey Hill logo (they use the same one for their gas stations), Using the Kroger partnership with Turkey Hill was really smart for the car. Overall it was a was good solid entry
- Way to make an entrance into the Menards Series, I think this by far is the best car I have seen you do. I loved the texture, and the logo was pretty spot on.
